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Ana Jones's avatar

After reading „The Power of Now“ I am convinced that yesterday and tomorrow are not real, hence we should be worried less about an illusion and appreciate the present moment regardless of how good or bad it is. This Realisation helps a lot to enjoy life in all it forms.

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MaDMan's avatar

Excellent observation, only the Eternal Now seems to exist at any given time. The future is created continuously, and the past lives with us to the extent it grapples with our souls and minds

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Jared's avatar

I absolutely agree! As Einstein put it: "the distinction between past, present and future is a stubbornly persistent illusion". What we perceive as the illusion of the flow of time, the chronological lens by which we view and experience our lives is just our consciousness mapping out our very own journey across space-time. We inadvertently saw a directional vector where there isn't any. If time cannot be taken separately from space as the very fabric of reality, then it does not flow at all, it just IS. Everything exists with the ever present now and if that's the case, then it would make free-will an illusion too by extension, wouldn't it?

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MaDMan's avatar

Yes, and no. On one hand one could say, we are 4 dimensional beings with the 4th dimension being experienced as a unidirectional arrow, but if we could step outside of this universe we would see it as such: Mechanical and Determined. BUT, if everything happens together it also mean that the act of happening is eternal, and thus created in that eternal instant.

The question is, Is reality Observed or Created? the answer is not trivial.

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Jared's avatar

That would imply that reality and timelines are constantly in flux...interesting.

As per reality, if you consider the wave-function collapse, then logically if we scale it up then observation creates reality. If viewed from a computational shortcut paradigm by, say an external system, it hints towards a resource-saving protocol to render only the observable. But then again there is no way for an internal observer to scientifically prove a simulation they are part of and it always boils down to philosophical ramifications. Who is observing the universe to collapse the wave-function to render our reality?

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MaDMan's avatar

There is a strong case to be made that, if consciousness if fundamental, then the universe is observing itself and any quantum exchange is a conscious exchange. To a romantic, it may appear as if it is remembering itself as it comes into being. The question is open, an answer most likely cannot be achieved in our degree of existence. Purist disagree but Godel's theorem applies here, at least the intuition that it provides.

On the human scale, I am a fan of Penrose's OR. Shadows of the Mind is a great book that I can never stop recommending.

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Jared's avatar

Yes that's the same conclusion I came to. I actually toyed and romanticized with observation generating reality in my Resonance Reclaimed: Awakening piece.

Lately I have been considering what if Time was never a fundamental aspect but rather an emergent property of interactions. Particles become locked in an entropy-bound classical world (where time has meaning) from a timeless quantum cloud and it all starts with the wave-function collapse.

Will check out Penrose when i get the time. Thanks for the recommendation!

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